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Lusciious · Jan 29, 2010, 11:35 PM // 23:35

Look . I was buying monstrous fangs / claws for 150g each . and apparently i had 2 people pm me in less than an hour asking me if its 150 or 1.5k and i said 150 and they called me a noob, scammer and ignored me ? wtf ? -.-

bsoltan · Jan 30, 2010, 12:08 AM // 00:08

The issue is that Monstrous Fangs are worth 1k at the trader and Monstrous Claws are worth 1.3k (at time of posting).

So players can make more money selling them to the Rare Material Trader than they can selling to you for 150gold as they will get 750g per Fang and 1k per Claw.

They think you're scamming by trying to get people to sell you an item for a fraction of it's value when in reality it would be worth a lot more and nearer the 1.5k they were mentioning.

If you're aware of these prices and are still asking to buy cheap materials is fine but if anyone checks the trader they probably won't sell to you and you'll get grief from players like that.

If they had any sense they would have told you the above information, just in case you didn't know.

Ariena Najea · Jan 30, 2010, 12:21 AM // 00:21

As bsoltan said.

Otherwise, for the less-commonly used materials like these, you are best off just paying the outlandish trader prices than wasting time trying to buy them from players.

Xsiriss · Jan 30, 2010, 12:25 AM // 00:25

Nothing's 'up' with them. Check the rare mat trader prices before buying rare mats,it's that simple, so stop whining.

Dzjudz · Jan 30, 2010, 12:38 AM // 00:38

Trader prices determine player prices. Player prices are always between trader sell and buy prices.

Example:
Item A can be bought from the trader for 1k.
Item A can be sold to the trader for 800g.
Logically, it follows that player prices are between 800g and 1k, hovering around 900g.

Because:
If sellers want to sell for more than 1k, buyers would just buy from trader.
If buyers want to buy for less than 800g, sellers would just sell to trader.

Conclusion:
Always check the trader's buy and sell prices to determine player price.

Lusciious · Jan 30, 2010, 01:19 AM // 01:19

yes i knew they cost that much . i was trying to save some money >.> well .. thanks for the explaination .

ac1inferno · Jan 30, 2010, 03:35 AM // 03:35

So if you knew the price and still advertised to buy it that low, isn't that scamming? Since you're taking advantage of people who don't know they can get more from it from the rare material trader.

Its like buying black dyes from new players in Pre-Searing Ascalon for much less than what the Dye Trader would pay for it because they don't know. I can say I'm trying to save money, but thats still scamming.

Angela Sitsonit · Jan 30, 2010, 04:09 AM // 04:09

It is getting harder to make money in this game due to nerfs and whatever but you hit an all time low with this one ! Trying to save some money ! LMAO !

Were you tired of buying Kournan coins for 150gp/each ? Or Trade contracts for 200gp/each ?

And ppl called you a noob you say ? they ignored you ? and even had the nerve to call you a scammer ? Sheesh bad bad ppl !

But serious that all is nothing compaired to some of the other choice words that came to my mind when i read your first post and it got even worse when i read the second.

karlik · Jan 30, 2010, 04:56 AM // 04:56

Trying to save money my a**. Trying to make money by scamming people!

Gotta go with Angela - if I put what I think of you in writing I'd get banned.

highway · Jan 30, 2010, 05:11 AM // 05:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by ac1inferno

So if you knew the price and still advertised to buy it that low, isn't that scamming? Since you're taking advantage of people who don't know they can get more from it from the rare material trader.

Its like buying black dyes from new players in Pre-Searing Ascalon for much less than what the Dye Trader would pay for it because they don't know. I can say I'm trying to save money, but thats still scamming.

I agree 100%
A rose by any other name......

Div · Jan 30, 2010, 05:19 AM // 05:19

I try to save money by advertising to buy ectos at 1k. I swear I'm not scamming!

Skyy High · Jan 30, 2010, 05:21 AM // 05:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lusciious

yes i knew they cost that much . i was trying to save some money >.> well .. thanks for the explaination .

Save money, by ripping off someone who doesn't know they can get a better deal from the bloody npc. That's scamming mate.

Reborn007 · Jan 30, 2010, 09:25 AM // 09:25

WTF! is wrong with you people?? He aint scamming, he has offered to buy at a certain price and pay that price, now if he were advertising, say to buy at 500g and then payed only 400g per item then thats scamming. It is totally upto the person selling to make sure that they want to sell at that price or sell at the trader. Its like ecto's you cant get them until you wither do certain places far into the the game, if you dont know by the time you are that far into the game, how much they are worth then the mind boggles. Scamming!! IS when you are blatantly tricking/duping a person, NOT when you are clearly stating what you are doing/paying/buying.
I've sold items/materials, that are far below what the traders are paying, just simply to help out other players. It is not always the case in game to make money but to enjoy the playing experience and make the game also enjoyable to play for others.

Mordiego · Jan 30, 2010, 10:22 AM // 10:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lusciious

... i had 2 people pm me in less than an hour asking me if its 150 or 1.5k and i said 150 and they called me a noob, scammer and ignored me ...

Coz it is a scam if U try to abuse ppl lack of knowledge these mats are ten times more expensive at mats tarder.

Kumu Honua · Jan 30, 2010, 11:03 AM // 11:03

It's not a scam by definition, it is however something that will piss off people who know what it's worth because they know you are abusing those who do not.

Scam? No.
Unethical? Possibly.
Pathetic? Yeah, a bit.

Lusciious · Jan 30, 2010, 11:49 AM // 11:49

When you buy things cheaper than the normal price, you're gaining . Everyone does it all the time . I can buy a q9 vs for 50e instead of 55e . i'm saving 35k . now am i taking advantage of that ? o.o you'd do the same if you were me . sheesh >.> look . it's up to them if they want to sell it to me for 150 . never heard of doing a good deed ?

forget it . mods close thread please .

Verene · Jan 30, 2010, 03:13 PM // 15:13

It's technically not a scam.

However, if you're trying to save some money, listing a "WTB" at a tenth of what they're normally worth isn't the way to do it.

Earth · Jan 30, 2010, 03:28 PM // 15:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lusciious

mods close thread please .

Ok .

Jan 29, 2010, 11:35 PM // 23:35	#1
Lusciious Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: I'm from Singapore but i live in Shanghai ATM Guild: Order of [Thay] Profession: N/	what's up with these people ? Look . I was buying monstrous fangs / claws for 150g each . and apparently i had 2 people pm me in less than an hour asking me if its 150 or 1.5k and i said 150 and they called me a noob, scammer and ignored me ? wtf ? -.-

Jan 30, 2010, 12:21 AM // 00:21	#3
Ariena Najea Silence and Motion Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Buffalo NY Guild: New Horizon [NH]	As bsoltan said. Otherwise, for the less-commonly used materials like these, you are best off just paying the outlandish trader prices than wasting time trying to buy them from players. __________________ Currently active in GW1 as of February 2015!

Jan 30, 2010, 05:19 AM // 05:19	#11
Div I like yumy food! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Where I can eat yumy food Guild: Dead Alley [dR] Profession: Mo/R	I try to save money by advertising to buy ectos at 1k. I swear I'm not scamming! __________________ http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...&postcount=195 My story.

Jan 30, 2010, 12:08 AM // 00:08	#2
bsoltan Site Contributor Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: UK Guild: [SoF]	The issue is that Monstrous Fangs are worth 1k at the trader and Monstrous Claws are worth 1.3k (at time of posting). So players can make more money selling them to the Rare Material Trader than they can selling to you for 150gold as they will get 750g per Fang and 1k per Claw. They think you're scamming by trying to get people to sell you an item for a fraction of it's value when in reality it would be worth a lot more and nearer the 1.5k they were mentioning. If you're aware of these prices and are still asking to buy cheap materials is fine but if anyone checks the trader they probably won't sell to you and you'll get grief from players like that. If they had any sense they would have told you the above information, just in case you didn't know.

Jan 30, 2010, 12:25 AM // 00:25	#4
Xsiriss Jungle Guide Join Date: May 2008	Nothing's 'up' with them. Check the rare mat trader prices before buying rare mats,it's that simple, so stop whining.

Jan 30, 2010, 12:38 AM // 00:38	#5
Dzjudz Furnace Stoker Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: gwpvx.com/user:dzjudz	Trader prices determine player prices. Player prices are always between trader sell and buy prices. Example: Item A can be bought from the trader for 1k. Item A can be sold to the trader for 800g. Logically, it follows that player prices are between 800g and 1k, hovering around 900g. Because: If sellers want to sell for more than 1k, buyers would just buy from trader. If buyers want to buy for less than 800g, sellers would just sell to trader. Conclusion: Always check the trader's buy and sell prices to determine player price.

Jan 30, 2010, 01:19 AM // 01:19	#6
Lusciious Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: I'm from Singapore but i live in Shanghai ATM Guild: Order of [Thay] Profession: N/	yes i knew they cost that much . i was trying to save some money >.> well .. thanks for the explaination .

Jan 30, 2010, 03:35 AM // 03:35	#7
ac1inferno Desert Nomad Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Boston Guild: We D Shot Your Stances [GODS] Profession: A/W	So if you knew the price and still advertised to buy it that low, isn't that scamming? Since you're taking advantage of people who don't know they can get more from it from the rare material trader. Its like buying black dyes from new players in Pre-Searing Ascalon for much less than what the Dye Trader would pay for it because they don't know. I can say I'm trying to save money, but thats still scamming.

Jan 30, 2010, 04:09 AM // 04:09	#8
Angela Sitsonit Academy Page Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: the Netherlands Guild: [AARP] Profession: W/	It is getting harder to make money in this game due to nerfs and whatever but you hit an all time low with this one ! Trying to save some money ! LMAO ! Were you tired of buying Kournan coins for 150gp/each ? Or Trade contracts for 200gp/each ? And ppl called you a noob you say ? they ignored you ? and even had the nerve to call you a scammer ? Sheesh bad bad ppl ! But serious that all is nothing compaired to some of the other choice words that came to my mind when i read your first post and it got even worse when i read the second.

Jan 30, 2010, 04:56 AM // 04:56	#9
karlik Banned Join Date: Sep 2009	Trying to save money my a**. Trying to make money by scamming people! Gotta go with Angela - if I put what I think of you in writing I'd get banned.

Jan 30, 2010, 09:25 AM // 09:25	#13
Reborn007 Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Nottingham, UK Guild: Halo Combat Evolved [SS] Profession: W/	WTF! is wrong with you people?? He aint scamming, he has offered to buy at a certain price and pay that price, now if he were advertising, say to buy at 500g and then payed only 400g per item then thats scamming. It is totally upto the person selling to make sure that they want to sell at that price or sell at the trader. Its like ecto's you cant get them until you wither do certain places far into the the game, if you dont know by the time you are that far into the game, how much they are worth then the mind boggles. Scamming!! IS when you are blatantly tricking/duping a person, NOT when you are clearly stating what you are doing/paying/buying. I've sold items/materials, that are far below what the traders are paying, just simply to help out other players. It is not always the case in game to make money but to enjoy the playing experience and make the game also enjoyable to play for others.

Jan 30, 2010, 11:03 AM // 11:03	#15
Kumu Honua Jungle Guide Join Date: Feb 2008	It's not a scam by definition, it is however something that will piss off people who know what it's worth because they know you are abusing those who do not. Scam? No. Unethical? Possibly. Pathetic? Yeah, a bit.

Jan 30, 2010, 11:49 AM // 11:49	#16
Lusciious Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: I'm from Singapore but i live in Shanghai ATM Guild: Order of [Thay] Profession: N/	When you buy things cheaper than the normal price, you're gaining . Everyone does it all the time . I can buy a q9 vs for 50e instead of 55e . i'm saving 35k . now am i taking advantage of that ? o.o you'd do the same if you were me . sheesh >.> look . it's up to them if they want to sell it to me for 150 . never heard of doing a good deed ? forget it . mods close thread please .

Jan 30, 2010, 03:13 PM // 15:13	#17
Verene Furnace Stoker Join Date: Jan 2009 Guild: [SOTA] Profession: D/	It's technically not a scam. However, if you're trying to save some money, listing a "WTB" at a tenth of what they're normally worth isn't the way to do it.